i think that a sort of our example of how they work. >> you write. >> the case in detroit, the detroit bomber was a pretty clean case. and that was not necessary a judge who was -- >> well, he settled. he didn't have to go to trial. he took a plea. that's a lot different from a trial. >> but it was very clean. so there are a lot of cleaning terrorism cases aside from moussaoui. please go ahead. >> one point that john bennett, fbi, my fbi, i have a concern about that. the fbi is an institution that looks for evidence and then looks for prosecution. in the scope of promotions in their hierarchy, for example, putting an fbi agent into a foreign country like the cia uses something called -- that's the top intelligence officer in the various indices. generally many of them i remember a number of years, something like half of them have never even been out of the country. so what happens here is if you're in the middle of the case trying to collect evidence come you do not want the evidence tainted. when you get into that legal aspect of it, i'm afraid that the fbi sometimes moves too far in